John M. Talmadge, M.D.

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Talk Therapy? Medication?

"We are more than a brain in a jar," Dr. Richard Friedman wrote recently in the New York Times. In his timely article about psychiatry, he goes on to say, "Despite a vast investment in basic neuroscience research and its rich intellectual promise, we have little to show for it on the treatment front." He points out that billions are spent on pharmaceutical research — the quest for the magic pills that will change the way we think and feel — but comparatively little money goes to psychotherapy research.

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I am an old-timer, and when my generation trained in psychiatry virtually all of us planned on being psychotherapists who were well educated in the use of medication as an adjunct to talk therapy. All psychiatrists I knew back then had been in psychotherapy themselves; personal therapy was considered part of becoming a competent clinician: "Physician, know thyself."

If a psychiatrist has a limited vocabulary, and can't conjugate nouns and verbs, how can they possibly communicate with patients?

Research shows that when psychotherapy and medication are both available, the combination is synergistic. It's like saying 1 + 1 = 3. Today, however, fewer than 10% of psychiatrists are trained and skilled in psychotherapy. My opinion is that this is why a good psychiatrist is very hard to find. I have been teaching young psychiatrists for over thirty years, and I have been a training director in one of our finest medical schools, and I can say with authority that many psychiatrists coming out today get failing grades when it comes to important skills like writing, speaking, and communicating clearly. I'm talking about basic errors in English grammar, syntax, and sentence structure — the stuff most people should learn by the time they enter high school! If a psychiatrist has a limited vocabulary, and can't conjugate nouns and verbs, how can they possibly communicate with patients? This is one reason that psychiatrists today are, in general, poor psychotherapists with little interest in what talk therapy has to offer.

Writing in a medical chart is similar to text messaging. It's easy, and grammar doesn't count. In fact, the modern electronic medical record discourages thoughtful writing, just like text messaging does. A good psychiatrist should not only speak well and write well. A good psychiatrist should be a superior thinker and communicator. Every doctor should have a big sign on the wall behind the chair where the patient is sitting: "DOCTOR, YOUR PATIENT IS TRYING TO TELL YOU SOMETHING!"


Here's Dr. Friedman again: "With few exceptions, every major class of current psychotropic drugs — antidepressants, antipsychotics, anti-anxiety medications — basically targets the same receptors and neurotransmitters in the brain as did their precursors, which were developed in the 1950s and 1960s."

"Sure, the newer drugs are generally safer and more tolerable than the older ones, but they are no more effective."

Prescribing a pill is easier and cheaper than offering the patient psychotherapy. Psychiatrists are paid more to prescribe pills than to counsel with patients. It is understandable, then, that the incentive is to see five patients in a single clinic hour. This saves insurance companies a lot of money. Many insurance companies will not even pay for psychotherapy with a qualified psychiatrist. And think about this: if a patient doesn't like the psychiatrist, there are fewer repeat or return visits. The winners are the insurance companies.

Dr. Friedman is also critical of trends in research, not because they are wrong, but because of simplistic logic. "The doubling down on basic neuroscience research" he says, "seems to reflect the premise that if we can unravel the function of the brain, we will have a definitive understanding of the mind and the causes of major psychiatric disorders." He points to an editorial in May in one of the most respected journals in our field, JAMA Psychiatry, emphasizing the brain but not mentioning the mind, the complexity of mental illness, or anything about how psychotherapy scientifically helps the brain. Friedman believes that "an undertaking as ambitious as unraveling the function of the brain would most likely take many years. Moreover, a complete understanding of neurobiology is unlikely to elucidate the complex interactions between genes and the environment that lie at the heart of many mental disorders."

"Anyone who thinks otherwise should remember the Decade of the Brain, which ended 15 years ago without yielding a significant clue about the underlying causes of psychiatric illnesses."
—Professor and Psychiatrist Richard Friedman

Dr. Friedman's article generated a number of replies, including this one from Christopher Lukas, a noted author:

"Over the years, I have had talking therapy for my depression and post-traumatic stress disorder, and I don’t believe I would be alive were it not for those sessions. I have also taken a whole range of medications for depression and find that psychotherapy outweighs the benefits of any of those drugs.

"Some psychiatrists and some patients think that drugs are better because they work like aspirin: Take two and call me in the morning. But, as Dr. Friedman pointed out, and as I have experienced, other patients find doses of talking therapy can work well if we’re patient and if we understand that many emotional problems may take time to go away.

"Persistence, willingness to give yourself over to the process and willingness to change therapists if the talk isn’t helping you: These are key to talk therapy’s benefits."


The comments by Lukas remind me of something I pointed out to a patient just last weekend. Asking about Alcoholics Anonymous, she wanted to know what it takes to succeed in finding sobriety through AA. "An easy way to think about it," I said, is to remember the three letters H-O-W." The old AA acronym stands for "honesty, open-mindedness, and willingness."

Another writer, who is a physician herself, also agreed with Dr. Friedman:

"For the past 30 years psychotherapy has been given short shrift as drug therapy has become the treatment of choice. There are many reasons for this, but the most powerful are economic.

"Doctors can manage medication for many more patients in a day than they can treat with psychotherapy. More important, pharmaceutical companies, which profit from the drug sales, support research, thus providing funds to psychiatry departments that receive no similar support for psychotherapy research.
Sadly, in the past generation or two there has been a huge loss in professional expertise as fewer psychiatry residency programs provide top-notch psychotherapy education and supervision.

"Twenty-eight years ago I went to medical school planning a career in child psychiatry. My interest had been primed by fascinating conversations I’d heard in high school between my father, a psychoanalyst, and his colleagues.
My medical school psychiatry rotation was a disappointment. There was no attempt to solve the riddles of patients’ emotions and behavior, only the adjustment of medication doses to treat symptoms. Still wanting to solve puzzles, I chose a career in radiology.

"When my father died, I was tremendously moved to hear some of his patients who attended his funeral tell me how the treatment he provided had profoundly changed their lives. Psychotherapy should be an integral part of psychiatric training."

Since I do both — I am a psychotherapist who prescribes medication when appropriate — it's understandable that I agree with Dr. Friedman. It's also true that I practice this way because that approach provides the best care for the brain, the mind, and the whole person.